Trump lost 2020 by 5 million votes
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Now the spread is up to 7 million votes . . . Trump and company does not count those
On July 6, 2020 the US Supreme Court by Justice KAGAN ruled in CHIAFALO ET AL. v. WASHINGTON, locatable on the web as 19-465_i425.pdf that in essence the popular vote - even the National one - will control electors in any form of an election challenge, and the state legislatures or Governors cannot. This was explained in full detail on November 6, 2020 by Lawrence Lessig one of the the most prominent attorneys on Federal election and constitutional law. His entire "blog" post is found at https://www.lawfareblog.com/state-legislatures-cant-ignore-popular-vote-appointing-electors This will end these Trump legal challenges, as the popular vote of the nation will flip any contested electors. right back. Hence Trump lost by 7 Million votes, so if Trump finds a few "dead people" that voted, he better have 7 million of them. Mr. Trump's latest failure in the Courts is before the 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals which basically summary affirmed the order of Judge Brann below saying also the case was "without merit", on November 28, 2020 in the Pennsylvania election case. See the order below as "Trump.pdf" along with the complaints and Judge Brann's ruling of the cas Brann - a Republican Obama appointee.
There has always been a solution to the coronavirus no one would listen to in their face, See https://gov-shout.com/Poor_mans_COVID_Protection
What is tearing the country apart is the Electoral College because people do not look at the big picture which is the real world way to count votes. The approximate 200,000 votes among the states which carried the electoral votes to Biden - does not "Trump" the 7 million votes against Mr. Trump. Nationally. For some reason - many believe is intrinsic racism, and extinction hostility to loosing power the Republicans and Trump followers have resorted to threatening anyone and everyone who does not agree the election was stolen. for some reason this misguided people believe they are being patriotic and militia groups have sprung up for the same reason. See this on CNN => https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/01/politics/georgia-election-official-trump-... It appears the Republican party is quietly fracturing into these racist tendency types and the ones with still good sense something is seriously wrong here.
Politico ( https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/04/donald-trump-in-court-443010 ) did an article summarizing 6 court losses in one day for Trump in his election challenge. What is disturbing is not the losses, what ius disturbing is that he though this was ever going to work in the first place and how he would just RAPE the American people and the trash the US Constitution for him to remain in power. Most of the relevant orders in the matter are attached this page below as PDF files from the courts. Everyone should really read what these courts had to say about this effort of Trump's. They are appalled.
One thing is now sure as rain, Trump at all times knew his base was dim-witted and sucked them of cash now to his personal PAC in which he now basically pockets upwards to or over 200 million dollars they donated on his way out the looser's door. See https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/12/05/cashing-in-disinformation... These people - Trump supporters - the true believers - were and are truly in a cult - giving money - to a leader who could care less about them than himself, and the worst part is - they STILL do not see it. Trump is not the only one capitalizing on this MAGA crap - others are doing it too - some even so bold as to say just donate to me - and I am going to set up more rallies across the country. These supporters honestly do not get it - there is no "protesting" Trump back into office - the game is done and over.
USATODAY wrote this => https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/09/legal-... titled "We asked nine legal experts about Trump's latest lawsuit challenging election results in Pennsylvania. Their verdict: Dead on arrival.". But that article deals withe the merits of the suit . . . and the reality is it is REALLY dead on arrival at the US Supreme Court . . . because they will likely apply the national popular vote as a standard which the July 6, 2020 ruling says in the last sentence is the "We the People Rule" as Lessig says in his blog post above. The Supreme Court likely will not invalidate any votes on a wise scale basis but just apply the National popular vote instead as a form of finality.
Having viewed the Pennsylvania GOP "hearing" on voter irregularities, if indeed there is any truth to what was claimed, then what has happened is - someone - or group of people - larger than the President, larger than Congress or intent on protecting the Constitution and the United States as it truly should be, decided Trump has to go - at any cost - and if there was massive fraud, then Trump made enough enemies to get a very sophisticated and powerful group of people to make sure the most dangerous and powerful state in the entire election equation - Pennsylvania - was not going to go to Trump. Still - 7 million votes cannot all be fraudulent - they are just quieted by the Electoral College system.
There is an interactive map where you can get the vote counts state by state by hovering over or clicking on the state on the map, and then recycle the page to get back to the map at https://abcnews.go.com/Elections/2020-us-presidential-election-results-l...
What is more likely is that there was enough of a racial divide from what Trump has done for the last four years - that Republicans in the state and across the country flipped on him, and Democrats voted by mail in droves. Minorities has been killed for trying to vote - and COVID or no COVID the safest way to vote was by mail, especially since White Supremacy was being fanned to life and armed people were killing again. Since the Republican legislature would not let pre-sorting or counting to begin until election day, and Trump told his supporters to vote in person it backfired against him. See the documentary mini-series "The Reagans" found at this writing of all four episodes separately at at https://www4.watchserieshd.tv/series/the-reagans-season-1-episode-1 and https://www4.watchserieshd.tv/series/the-reagans-season-1-episode-2 and This was the first President in recent times who suffered from mental illness - both upon entering the Whitehouse and in his early stages of Alzheimer disease hidden from the public.
See a CNN look back at just how ugly and toxic things got for Republicans who even ever tried to work with and help Obama in his presidency and what Trump actually did to win the Whitehouse, nd it is a better bet there are just more good people in America than those who support Trump. See https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/27/opinions/obama-memoir-what-about-trump-me... It is really damning for Trump. The thing about mental illness is the host has no idea they are mentally ill, and Mr. Trump's behavior is so bad even the producers of "Veep" pulled the show from the air because it was too close to the reality of the Trump Presidency. See https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/12/06/trump-veep-moments-435... It is clear Mr. Trump remains defiant and delusional speaking of a 2024 run for the Presidency but after this behavior it is incredulous that he even ever thinks he can be re-elected against his now temper tantrum and rage scorched earth policy record going out the door. See https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/528926-four-reasons-donald-trump-wi...
Clearly any challenge Mr. Trump and his misguided legal team believing somehow the Supreme Court by his new appointee Amy Coney Barrett would or will help him reverse the election based on the fact the count was not done on election night, is absurd. This author has a degree in Law Studies and has read the ruling and it is clear that it says that the electors power only emanates from the "we the people rule". In essence Dana Bash of CNN woke up and saw this was a Trump "setup" and said this was his planned argument all the time about mail in ballots that arrived after election night, but , Trump and his team fail to see that includes votes actually cast before or on election night postmarked and - allowed by law to arrive later. Trump was planning this all along - but on July 6, 2020 the Supreme Court beat him to it. "Uh, Uh, Uh we thought of that one too"
Trump was "telegraphing" for months he was planning this - and he was "Trumped" by the Supreme Court first, in essence saying do not bring that argument up in here. All Lawyers are not the same - and really bad ones tend to tolerate really bad clients like Trump. Trump as a non-lawyer has no clue what he is doing and thinks as President he can just declare it so.
But worse in this case, Trump shot himself in the foot by claiming he preferred the popular vote anyway. President Trump Reaffirmed His Long-Standing Opposition to the Electoral College, and Favors A Nationwide Vote for President. Then he lost by 5 Million votes in the popular vote election as well as in the Electoral college. Now that he got his wish he again thinks it is fraud and wants to sue everywhere he can locally for irregularities he has no proof of to hope to change Electoral Results to his favor. mainly in Arizona and Pennsylvania but Pennsylvania has election code law that in the case of ties and litigated Presidential elections state law electors will vote the National Popular vote for the Electoral college according to ex Republican Senator Rick Santorum on November 5th in the early morning on CNN where as a CNN commentator he looked it up on his cell phone and cited the code by number and read it on the air in response to Van Jones claiming Trump was going to try the legislature coup described. Sorry I did not record it. It matters not because the US Supreme Court has unanimously ruled as much anyway. Many see this Trump scenario will lead to voting restriction laws, but it really just indicates how critical it is time for the National Popular Vote elector selection method to be implemented before the next Presidential General election. Sse https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/trump-s-false-fraud-claims-ar...
This Trump team and effort is a pack of fools driving themselves off a cliff, because the National Popular Vote Agreement effort shown at nationalpopularvote.com will certainly almost for sure go through by the next Presidential election now, and as Lessig points out in his article - will be used as a measure NOW in any challenge that reaches the US Supreme Court.
In 2012, Donald Trump said, "The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy. ... A total sham and a travesty."
On April 26, 2018, President Donald Trump told Fox & Friends that "I would rather have a popular election." Politico Video
This page is adopted from https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/president-trump-reaffirms-his-long-standing-opposition-electoral-college-and-favors-nationwide-vote
See a Fox and Friends video at https://youtu.be/nuR3bxzr8gw
Trump is unable to understand how the electoral college works and in 2016 commissioned a panel to find the "voter fraud" as to how Hillary Clinton won the Popular Vote by 3 million votes. He thinks in his mind this is voter fraud because Trump himself lacks the ability to understand the Electoral College and cannot count that was the first alarm bell that he was not the brightest bulb in the shop. Even a school child understands how voters are disenfranchised once the the electoral college count is achieved in a given state. See https://www.vox.com/2017/7/19/16000716/trump-kris-kobach-voter-fraud-cli... and https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/vote-fraud-panel-head-cas... and https://apnews.com/article/b3d4e5974aba421b81763c153541ea06
This is what happens when a non-lawyer who cannot count does not understand the Electoral College disenfranchises voters. Only Trump and his followers it seems cannot understand this It is all explained at https://nationalpopularvote.com . Now here we go again with people who cannot count. If a voter in any given state votes Democratic, and the local vote goes popular vote winner take all - Republican, then those Democratic votes go into the national pool and can eventually as a pool number grow higher than the number needed to win the 270 votes for the Electoral college. On the video above - Trump explains on Fox and Friends how he does not understand this - yet he thinks he is explaining it correctly when he is 100% wrong. It is like the Emperors' New Clothes - he does not realize he just stripped himself naked.
In October of 2015 Politico Magazine published a detailed article with cross links titled "could America elect a Mentally Ill President?" at https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/10/politics-mental-illness-... It goes on in the article to say one is likely mentally ill to run for President in the first place, being likely a narcissist and worse having a need for power over others. Actually normally these candidates are sociopaths, and the question becomes can they use this personality disorder for the good of the people they seek to lead or will they implode into a quivering mess of irrationality and spite when things do not go their way. Mr. Trump in his now final days of the year in 2020 has really now shown the American people how big a mistake electing him was. With no previous political career mental health professionals warned not to elect him, and they were right. In 2018 as the cracks were beginning to alarm people in Mr. Trump's behaviors this article and several others like it appeared => https://theconversation.com/no-president-should-assume-office-without-a-... Mr. Trump like a 5 year old who knows nothing of the law and how America works began his tantrum when he discovered the Indians in Arizona, and the African Americans in most every other major metropolitan area had organized a strike force against him to remove him from office and it worked. in the battleground states which mattered.
This election was about Race and treatment of poorer and disenfranchised Americans, and they rose up. The threshold could not be overcome in some parts of the country, but the numbers - the 6 million vote spread just does not lie - it would take a really supplicated massive well oiled fraud machine to pull off a 6 million vote overage - but in the electoral college Battleground states it made and hit the intended mark It wa like COVID-19 got him a second time and killed him this time - all the people who might not have showed up got to do so by the US Postal Service. Trump spent time and money trying to un-ring the bell. 3 million dollars in Wisconsin for a recount that actually found MORE votes for Biden and his Republican supporters tried in Arizona to get a look at the ballots to try to claim fraud or irregularities to drop votes to flip states in his favor. But here is where mental illness becomes delusion as many network commentators have called it - there is a 7 million vote spread - Mr. Trump cannot recognize that in a world or fairness and rational reality - 7 million more people than required have told him to go - and get out of the Whitehouse. That is clear mental illness in the true definition of the phrase. for Donald Trump and the Republication party - because it is evidence of mass mental illness across the country where some of the most racist supporters reside. See https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/02/politics/donald-trump-2024-republican-par... Republican Trump people keep saying every vote should count and it should be fair - but they do not count those 7 million votes.
The latest was that Texas sued Pennsylvania and three other states joined by 17 other states and Trump moved to Intervene. Those documents are also attached below. Every news expert and scholar is called it long shot crazy. Other states filed documents for and against. You can see a running docket of downloadable PDF files here => https://www.democracydocket.com/cases/texas-scotus-decertification-chall... There are over 12 at this revision moment.
Trump had called the lawsuit filed by Texas against Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin “the big one” that would end with the Supreme Court undoing Biden’s substantial Electoral College majority and allowing Trump to serve another four years in the White House. Mr. Trump was WRONG again - as usual . . .
In a brief order, December 11, 2020, before the electoral college was to meet and vote on December 14, 2020 the Supreme Court shot the Texas v Pennsylvania suit down. The court said Texas does not have the legal right to sue those states because it “has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another State conducts its elections.”
On December 12th in the Bush v Gore election is when the US Supreme court last interjected into a US Presidential election to stop the ongoing Florida recount, thus giving Bush the victory. This time it ended a possible challenge before the court under alleged original jurisdiction.
Justices Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas, who have said previously the court does not have the authority to turn away lawsuits between states, said they would have heard Texas’ complaint. But they would not have done as Texas wanted pending resolution of the lawsuit, and set aside those four states’ 62 electoral votes for Biden.
Three Trump appointees sit on the high court. In his push to get the most recent of his nominees, Justice Amy Coney Barrett, confirmed quickly, Trump said she would be needed for any post-election lawsuits. Barrett appears to have participated in both cases this week. None of the Trump appointees noted a dissent in either case.
USA Today published an article here => https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/12/12/donald-trump-sto... which pretty much hits the nail on the head why Mr. Trump had no chance in the US Supreme Court - it is a conservative court that WILL follow the law and protect the Constitutions and Mr. Trump is a fake Republican who lies incessantly, spends to the point of bankruptcy in an inability to count look and reason fiscally, had been intent on destroying the Government as built thus far including the protections it built into the Democracy for its citizens, and is a Racist. Anyone who sides with Racist tendencies - is not between worlds - they are one or the other.
Then POLITICO finally tried to "politely" explain Mr. Trump's mental illness through a comparison to the science of addition - which is a side shoot way of saying Mr. Trump's problem is actually genetic here => https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/12/12/trump-grievance-addict...
Frankly what is happening here is the best argument to push towards a National Popular Vote - and between the mid-terms and what the US Supreme Court rules I would not be surprised to see it happen by the 2024 General election.
Lots of people are weighing in on this. See a few below
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-loser-of-the-year-der-spieg...
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/10/politics/trump-texas-supreme-court-electi...
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/12/11/trump-ag-lawsuits-electio...
CNN's Anderson Cooper basically calls Trump an "idiotic" in how he thinks above.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/12/10/ron-johnson-trump-electio...
https://www.cnn.com/videos/media/2020/12/10/right-wing-media-fan-fiction...
Here is the simple truth -a lot of Republicans voted AGAINST Trump - but down ballot voted Republican. They did not like Trump nor his "supporters" nor how he stoked a lack of harmony in America. They knew Trump was calling himself Republican, but did not really represent the conservatism that the Republican Party wanted, and "MOST" did not want it to be Racism. Trump had to go - and he never saw it coming and it ws his own party who threw him out, because of them never wanted him in, but he was the best chance in his Celebrity to beat Hillary Clinton and was saying most things it appeared Americans wanted to hear. With no Political resume of Trump they knew not what they would get and now four years later they knew they wanted no more of it. The persistent lying,- over 25,000 lies or misleading statements in his tenure as President turned out to be something more Americans do not want to see than he thinks and his failure to see himself in introspection and at the chagrin of others trying to advise him, sealed his own fate. They saw a mentally ill person up close and personal. They still see it even more clearly now the more Trump tries to overthrow the election. The world is just crossing its fingers the US can get rid of Trump. See https://www.businessinsider.com/europe-opinion-poll-united-states-slumps... for one and this for another => https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/07/when-trumps-understand... He just looks plain crazy right now - and even if he has any merit to what he says - he should recognize the 7 million vote spread cannot be all fraudulent to oust Mr. Trump.
Most would agree this is finally the end - as Biden said in the Trump Congress challenge in 2016 "there is no debate Its over".
Use of the National Popular Vote to create the electors will end all of this forever in the future. (Scroll up to read entire article) Below is a compilation of news since January 2, 2021 illustrating how if using the National Popular Vote in a majority of the States, and certainly the "battleground states, NONE of this would have ever happened.
One Year later the PBS Newshour did a special on January 6th. See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvmasW_glUQ&pp=QAFIAw%3D%3D and while the Janauary 6th Committee sees some discussion about modifying the Electoral Count Act, it is NOT in any way at the ROOT of the cause, which is the Electoral system itself can work to disenfranchise voters because they are not evenly spread accross the Nation. Only the Nation Popular Vote or the Voters Choice Ballot National Popular Vote will do that.
Trump did not get 74 million votes for any reason other than new nationwide mail in voting due the coronavirus as did Biden, but he still was beat by a 7 million vote spread which in the end could not ALL be fraudulent.
In an edit on January 12, 2021 CNN has a number of summation videos that tell the story, and after them other videos often continue to run. But here are the most important ones as direct links to them
Republicans knew Donald Trump was going to be bad news . . . .
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/01/11/republicans-warned-agains...
Alisyn Camerota shows just how crazy and dumb Trump supporters are
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/01/11/trump-supporters-alisyn-c...
a particularly lovely fiery blunt well spoken response from Ana Navarro to ANY kind of Trump support further
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/01/11/ana-navarro-alice-stewart...
and on Trump and his pardons
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/01/11/john-avlon-reality-check-...
and a newly elected crazy GOP House Republican Lauren Boebert who is literally a waitress/owner of "Shooters Grill" focusing her presence on gun control It is a good guess a waitress does not have a legal education nor is a lawyer, so is she qualified to even be in Congress?? Now there was a woman in California who owned and ran a Coffee and Bagel shop for ten years - who was a lawyer and then later jumped from her coffee shop to a judgeship - but at least she was qualified. (See https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2006-jun-08-me-judge8-story.html ) Not to be outdone Governor Schwarzenegger then simply re-appointed the loosing Judge back to the Bench anyway. People figured it was due the incumbents' Russian looking and sounding name. But those in the law said . . . anyway . . .
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/01/09/lauren-boebert-gun-capito...
A favorite on just how hard it is to get a president out when they have gone crazy in office
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/01/11/impeachment-options-histo...
and the sad favorite from Gloria Borger on how all the government officials who are cabinet members that could do something run in the midst of threats to the country
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/01/11/chad-wolf-resignation-bor...
but finally, the real truth about Trump and his followers - that they are seditionists, and have virtually left America believing they are in the country of Trump comparing Trump to Jefferson Davis, with them displaying the Confederate flag and that they should be treated as such
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/01/10/capitol-riot-trump-remove...
These links to videos are posted here because they are lost to history buried in the CNN archives unable to be found later unless you know the name of the video - but CNN leaves them up, and the one on Senator Lindsay Graham calling Trump "a race bating xenophobe" who needs to "go to hell" from 2015 is still up but you need to know where the find it.
If you think Bernstein is being a bit harsh, read "1918 Germany Has a Warning for America" found at https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/30/opinion/trump-conspiracy-germany-1918... or the local copy at https://gov-shout.com/1918_Germany_Has_a_Warning_for_America
The now infamous January 2, 2021 call of Mr. Trump to Brad Raffensperger - the Georgia Secretary of State stating he just needs "one vote" over the 11,779 he lost the state by to clinch the win. Of course it was all over at that time but as Trump's Wharton Professor said "Dumbest Goddam Student I ever Taught". It is dumber than rocks that Mr. Trump cannot see how his lies, embellishments and otherwise in how he speaks has so soured most of the country - and the world - he has no right to ever be President of the United States, not the first time, he lost by 3 million votes, and not now he lost by 7 million votes, but for the electoral college cheat system. It was equally dumber than rocks to even make the call.
This is what a non-lawyer bully does, and even though he had a lawyer on the call with him, that person should have definitely known better and not participated. See the BBC fact check of the call here => https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-55529230 and a full transcript of the call is here => https://gov-shout.com/Transcript_of_Raffensperger_call_January_2nd When Gohmert sued Pence to force him to count all electoral votes - a Federal Judge dismissed it with one page for lack of subject matter jurisdiction here => https://bigbay4bestbuys.com/sites/default/files/gohmert-case-dismissed.p... The Atlantic calls the Trumpites, minions, and stops just short of calling them something stronger . . . here => https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/12/cowards-are-destroying... Talk about exposing one's self . . WOW.
The states of DE, HI, RI, VT, CO, CT, MD, MA, NJ, NM, OR, WA, CA, IL, NY, and the District of Columbia, controlling 196 electoral votes have joined the National Popular Vote Compact agreement - but it will not be effective unless and until enough states join to reach 270 electoral votes in their control. That will likely never happen, and the power of the National Popular Vote is needed now, so this page proposes the way to activate that power NOW and / or put it in the hands of the voters for 2024. These electoral college manipulations must end and this page will show how it can be done once and for all. You can visit https://nationalpopularvote.com for all the arguments why this is important. If you are one of those states above, we urge you to piggyback this modification of that agreement so it can be activated now.
The only reason the 2020 presidential election remained in turmoil -- for 2 months -- is that if a mere 21,461 voters had changed their minds (5,229 in Arizona, 5,890 in Georgia, and 10,342 in Wisconsin), Joe Biden would have been defeated, despite leading nationally by 7,059,800 votes. The website and organization nationalpopularvote.com calculated these figures and it was part of an email sent urging others to get behind their National Popular Vote Compact Bill which is a valiant effort but will never become reality the way it is crafted and promoted. A copy of their email is here.
Everyone has listened to Republicans repeated claim in their objections to counting the electoral votes, claiming the elector clause expanded into judicial bars to settling electoral law issues which are NOT related to the manner in which States select electors. There is only TWO manners the US Constitution covers is how the electors are selected, not the underlying election law of the state. There is the winner take all, or by district method, and nothing else. Republican want people to be misled and extend the US Constitution to something it does not say.
Here is how the manner is settled - for each vote the Republicans believe is invalid, then replace that vote with one from any state with an overage of popular vote numbers between Biden and Trump, and see if is EVER enough alleged fraudulent votes can overcome the 7 million or so spread to make Mr. Trump President elect again. Of course it would never happen mathematically, and that is called "the actual will of the people". where every vote counts. Mr. Trump still looses.
The time has come however to add two more manners for States to appoint electors - the National Popular Vote and /or the National Popular Vote by way of the Voter Choice Ballot at the time of the election. The Republicans at all times ignore the true "will of the people" argument they make - there is a 7 million vote spread and these few thousand votes here and there deserve no respect to be considered with such weight because the error margin cannot over come that 7 million vote number nation wide. So the purpose of this page is provide Legislatures AND persons as groups or activists, a way to put on the ballot a way the Supreme Court has already defined as a legislative function - a referendum of the voters commanding the legislature act as the people command them to.
But here is the truth about Trump and his supporters - they are all seditious and imbalanced - including Trump - and their idea of democracy is to storm the Capitol to prevent the votes from being counted. In the process of debate the TV feed goes out and the Capitol is declared in "lockdown" - and this is not from a foreign power - this is from so called American citizens. This is their mentality because they have been taught to count "wonky" by the electoral college and so it is definitely time to end that possibility every again. See https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/we-will-never-concede-trum... and https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/01/06/dc-protests-trump-ral... at minimum.
This is what anyone would call mentally ill people. The Electoral College with its ridiculous "a Black man is a 3/5ths of a vote" hooey is how it has ended up today which is causing this. This is what racist politics turns into - especially on a day when both Georgia seats in the Senate have flipped to Democrats. This is what "we refuse to be fair and logical" looks like. These combatants should be jailed and be considered for expulsion from America, and let them go start their own society where they want on some piece of land they can buy or go to a Nation that wants their behavior The sad reality is it was all over social media and law enforcement simply missed it - thinking it was just "boasting" See https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2021/01/09/capitol-riots-social-medi... and it appears are planning more https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/08/twitter-permanently-suspends-trumps-acco...
The next day, the world has its own news stories views, a compilation of which can be found on YouTube here => https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSgFLN1aNCU The Australians pointing out that law enforcement was not even present in resistance - but for the Black Lives Matter issue - they were in over abundance in riot gear. Then Mr. Trump was back to lying about the entire thing - this time news media not even being polite - and just calling him lying A CNN compilation starts here => https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/08/politics/donald-trump-impeachment-capitol...
Here CNN's Micheal Smerconish is really too kind to Trump, rattling off "accomplishments" that are not accomplishments at all measured against the advancement oif humanity and life on this planet for mankind. Trump was actually creating a lot of debt for America giving tax cuts when tax raises were needed and all of this was BEFORE the pandemic hit. See these three separate articles of this, this and this. https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2021/01/09/smerconish-epitaph-for-the-trum... But he does so Trump is to blame and while i read the latest articles of impeachment found here - I do not know who drafted them but they clearly do not know what they are doing as shown here. Even when I first read them the first time I thought - where is the seditious conspiracy charge?? Allegedly Rep Omar said she began drafting them here and it is not said who finished them or if her set was just adopted by Pelosi. Nether women are lawyers and the flaws in the article show again as shown here. the focus however should not be on Removing Trump but on stopping him online in his seditious efforts which continue now at gab.com it appears. Only a switch to the National Popular Vote for elector selection in majority of the states will end this nightmare ht Electoral College causes.
Law enforcement and Congressional members now issue calls for charges of sedition be brought against these protesters and rioters. . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedition The difference is today - this is an organized movement and group, and they truly are not bright enough to know what they just did to themselves, believing they had a the "right" to it as "Americans" The difference is today - many are on camera actually being interviewed and caught in video they themselves posted to the internet, not being bright enough to realize, it is not the easy to just delete or take down their own incriminating evidence. the human brain is not an organ of logic, it is a rational organ, and is susceptible to external influences if you have not grown up being taught hw to firmly decipher reality from fantasy as a form of thought. Too many are in fantasy and that is why our election process MUST be purely numerical logical and leave no room for fuzzy math fantasy as the Electoral College presently does.
See https://gov-shout.com/The_day_America_realized_how_dangerous_Donald_Trum...
On December 15, 2020 one day after the electoral college vote, CNN and NPR posted the below articles, two chronicling how the electoral collage has always been a system designed to be assured that a certain type of people could never become president and calling for its abolishment, and NPR showing how nasty Mr. Trump's presidency has been. dividing and keeping America divided into Racial camps See https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2019/03/21/cnngo-the-point-electoral-colle... and https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/15/opinions/abolish-the-electoral-college-jo... and https://www.npr.org/2020/12/15/946562685/democracy-held-with-bidens-win-... Mr. Trump has accentuated the ugliness of the electoral college and the people behind trying to use this backwards math system to defeat the will of the people of ALL the United States. To these people 7 million votes is like they do not see them or want to.
But the electoral collage has little chance of being abolished because it requires a Constitutional Convention that even if it made it through the Congress, it is only a proposed amendment and becomes part of the Constitution as soon as it is ratified by three-fourths of the States (38 of 50 States). That will not likely ever happen See also https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/constitution
The better way is to do this is to have states switch their elector selection method to use of the National Popular Vote. For those who are "gun shy" can put it on the ballot with the candidates as a "Voter Choice Ballot" as shown below.
In some states, Governors can or others can have this put on the ballot even when there are stubborn legislatures that will not agree. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initiatives_and_referendums_in_the_United_... These states just need to be "nudged".
CNN has been amassing objective reports - though tough in cheek, but true and below are a few
See what George Conway thinks about Trump's refusal to concede
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/12/15/george-conway-trump-elect...
Mr Trump just never realized - and still does not realize - how many people were working against his re-election, and many were Republicans most notably the Lincoln Project whose relentless assault was quite effective, and George Conway is of course a co-founder of that Republican PAC.
See https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/17/politics/donald-trump-joe-biden-2020-elec... to take a look at the map on this page, because as the saying goes "land don't vote" , meaning do not color "red" places where no people in mass actually live - that is - populous centers like major metro cities are where the real votes were and are, so it shows the REAL spread of Republican votes across America, and
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/17/never-trump-what-next-447235
But most importantly it is really telling when Trump's own neighbors in Florida do not want him moving there after the end of his Presidency as CNN's Don Lemon points out among several other realities in this report below. CNN usually keeps rolling forward more videos after the main one so - these links should be a lot of watching
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/18/politics/donald-trump-absent-covid-stimul...
On Sixty Minutes on November 13, 2016, President-Elect Trump said:
"I would rather see it, where you went with simple votes. You know, you get 100 million votes, and somebody else gets 90 million votes, and you win. There’s a reason for doing this. Because it brings all the states into play."
State winner-take-all laws are the reason why the vast majority of voters and states are not in play in presidential campaigns. The vast majority of states and the vast majority of voters are ignored because candidates only campaign only in a handful of closely divided "battleground" states. Candidates write off states where they are hopelessly behind. They take for granted states where they are safely ahead. In the 2016 general-election campaign:
- Over half of the campaign events (57% of the 399 events) were held in just 4 states (Florida, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Ohio).
- Virtually all of the campaign events (94%) were in just 12 states (containing only 30% of the country's population).
As presidential candidate and Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker (R) pointedly observed in 2015,
"The nation as a whole is not going to elect the next president. Twelve states are." Video
The map below shows the number of 2016 general-election campaign events received by each state. See Map
State winner-take-all laws are also the reason why it is possible for a candidate to win the Presidency without winning the national popular vote. Under state winner-take-all laws, all of a state's electoral votes go to the candidate receiving the most popular votes in each separate state. If these state laws are not changed, there will likely be more presidential elections in which the loser of the national popular vote wins the Electoral College. This is especially true because we are in an era of close presidential elections (the average margin in the national popular vote has been only 5% since 1988). Five out of our 45 Presidents came into office after losing the national popular vote.
Here's what Trump said to Lesley Stahl about the Electoral College and a national popular vote for President on Sixty Minutes on November 13, 2016:
Stahl: Now for months you were running around saying the system is rigged. The whole thing was rigged. You tweeted once that the Electoral College is a “disaster for democracy.”
Trump: I do.
Stahl: So do you still think it’s rigged?
Trump: Well, I think the Electoral College. Look I won with the Electoral College.
Stahl: Exactly. But do you think it’s rigged?
Trump: Yes. Some of the election locations are. Some of the system is. Ah.
Stahl: Even though you won, you’re saying that.
Trump: Well, I mean, I’m not going to change my mind just because I won. But I would rather see it, where you went with simple votes. You know, you get 100 million votes, and somebody else gets 90 million votes, and you win. There’s a reason for doing this. Because it brings all the states into play. The Electoral College. And there’s something very good about that. But this is a different system. But I respect it. I do respect the system.
Although Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton rarely agree, Clinton said in 2000,
"I believe strongly that in a democracy, we should respect the will of the people … and move to the popular election of our president.”
Mr. Trump may get his way . . . his own words will work against him as law exists right now to convert his challenges to use the National Popular vote In four more years maybe enough more states will ratify the Agreement that future elections will use the National Popular vote by a nix to the Electoral college 16 states have already done so for a total of 196 electoral votes, See https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/state-status for more information and if you are in a State that has not enacted it to law, write your Legislators or Governor and tell them the Supreme court ruling means it should be passed now with all dispatch. Cite CHIAFALO ET AL. v. WASHINGTON, locatable on the web as 19-465_i425.pdf in your letter.
Wow, Mr. Trump why would you make such a fool of yourself. Mr. Senator Lindsey Graham is right, after the National Popular Vote passes, it will be very hard to ever elect another Republican President for fear rightly so of this craziness again. See https://thehill.com/homenews/525063-lindsey-graham-if-trump-concedes-ele... There are just 5 million more people with good sense than the craziness of the Republican Party supporters and Republicans wil likely be kept out of the Whitehouse for some time to come.
WITH THE MARGINS OF THE STATES, VS POPULAR VOTE, IT IS TIME TO USE A NATIONAL POPULAR VOTE
(yes click on link above for more info - this is already underway enacted as law in several states)
Here is a link to National Popular Vote YouTube video - 2 hours - https://youtu.be/ieOvGPcSMV8 (See Lawrence Lessig as a speaker at time index 53:40 forward)
It must be noted the National Popular Vote Compact effort will likely never reach the required member states to control 270 electoral votes, whereas the Voter Choice Ballot method below only need get close to cause the intended effect. Right now 196 electoral votes are under "control" and to add two of the four "battleground" states or one and almost any other, will make it increasingly near improbable any candidate will overcome that hurdle in the electoral college.
HERE IS TEXT BELOW WHICH LEGISLATORS MAY USE AS A BOILERPLATE TO ENACT IMMEDIATE NATIONAL POPULAR VOTE LEGISLATION WITHOUT AN AGREEMENT TO OTHER STATES
(THIS IS ADOPTED FROM THE NATIONAL POPULAR VOTE AGREEMENT TEXT FOUND AT https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/bill-text which in theory if left "pure" by not adding other voting provisions - a governor cannot constitutionally "veto". Just add election code prefaces as to what sections are being changed as it relates to presidential electors ONLY in the state law.)
This method below can be used to leave the voting method of the state the same unless the people vote for the National Popular Vote for that election, or it can be used to change the default method of electors to be the national popular vote, and the people can vote against it - OR leaving out the Vote Choice Ballot (VCB) sampled below and the bolded section, to leave elector selection always at National Popular Vote. This can be enacted even if already a national Popular Vote member state awaiting that National Popular Vote State Compact agreement to ever reach 270 electoral vote members to activate it. If a state elects to use its current system still, only a vote choice ballot majority will activate choice of electors by National Popular Vote. See also https://makingeveryvote.com a modified version of their suggested ballot is below.
(You can click on ballot to enlarge - or open it in a new window to enlarge)
Mr. Trump has raised so many questions of legitimacy in the 2020 election those six million voters who voted to remove him obviously cannot see how he cannot see - 6 million people have told him to go. Instead Trump is trying to defeat voting amounts of 10 or 20 thousand votes to flip states to give him the required 270 electoral votes. These voters now need to now see how that can be made to never be allowed to happen again. Here is a sample VCB ballot. This concept is supported by several organizations including https://makingeveryvotecount.com which is who coined the phrase "VCB" for "Voter Choice Ballot " as afar as can be told. However their sample ballot makes promises and is worded in such a manner to be misleading, and as far as can be told - does not offer guidance or options to legislators on how to enact it. sadly nationalpopularvote.com disagrees with this method from an apparent misconstruing of the virtues of this VCB system. The biggest virtue is no state need change its elector selection method unless the voters vote to change it for that year. See https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/analysis-voter-choice-ballot-unilate... To us, that argument makes absolutely no sense from nationalpopularvote.com
(You can click on the image or open in a new window for a larger image to view and read the text of)
This method above allows a Legislature flexibility to:
1. Enact National Popular Vote unilaterally
2. Leave the State Popular Vote in place and allow voters to change it in the election itself
3. Enact the National Popular vote and allow voters to over-ride it by majority vote in an election to revert to the State method
The method can co-exist with the nationalpopularvote.com Compact effort
NON MEMBERSHIP DIRECT IMMEDIATE NATIONAL POPULAR VOTE MODIFIED BILL TEXT SAMPLE BEGINS
Article I—Membership Enactment of the Popular Vote Elector Appointment and Pledge Method.
Any State of the United States and the District of Columbia may become a member of agreement by enacting agreement In so much as Presidential elections now by technology have the capability to rapidly tabulate and communicate the count and changes to count of said votes, and in so much as election court challenges to manipulate by legal challenges Electoral outcomes to defeat and disenfranchise individual voters, by a winner take all manner locally through the State by State electoral colleges, be it resolved by this legislative body in accordance with the U.S. Constitution (Article II, Section 1) which gives the state Legislature sole exclusive control over awarding their electoral votes: to wit “Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors....” and in accord the clarification that this must be in accordance with a popular vote of the people in a unanimous ruling from the US Supreme Court in CHIAFALO ET AL. v. WASHINGTON, case number 19-465_i425, July 6, 2020 declaring same as a “we the people rule”,[ this state adopts the National Popular Vote as its binding elector pledge method. ] {OR BELOW}
The legislature [adopts or uses] the [National or State] Popular Vote system and for the will of the voter shall on the General Election Ballot place a vote box where the voter can at the time of their vote for President also vote for the elector selection method of their choice. If the optional elector selection method receives the most votes statewide then that shall be the elector selection method for that General election year, and if neither is checked the default shall be used which is to be the [National or State] Popular Vote system. In any and all challenges by candidates, the fallback shall in such case be the National Popular Vote as the elector selection method..
Article II—Right of the People in Member States to Vote for President and Vice President
The U.S. Constitution (Article II, Section 1) gives exclusively in such Manner as the Legislature thereof each State may direct, a Number of Electors. Each member s Be it now resolved by this Legislative body that this state shall conduct a statewide popular election for President and Vice President called the Presidential slate - of the United States, and the winner-take-all method of awarding electoral college votes by local popular vote is abolished and repealed in favor of awarding electoral votes in accord the cumulative national popular vote.
Article III—Manner of Appointing Presidential Electors in Member States this State
Prior to the time set by law for the meeting and voting by the presidential electors, the chief election official of each member this state shall determine the number of votes for each presidential slate in each State of the United States and in the District of Columbia in which votes have been cast in a statewide popular election and shall add such votes together to produce a “national popular vote total” for each presidential slate.
The chief election official of each member this state shall designate the presidential slate with the largest national popular vote total as the “national popular vote winner.”
The presidential elector certifying official of each member this state shall certify the appointment in that official’s own state of the elector slate nominated in that state in association with the national popular vote winner.
At least six days before the day fixed by law for the meeting and voting by the presidential electors, each member this state shall make a final determination of the number of popular votes cast in the state by publicly making said announcement on their official public electronic publication tally platform usually currently an official website
The chief election official of each member this state shall treat as conclusive an official statement containing the number of popular votes in a state for each presidential slate made by the day established by federal law for making a state’s final determination conclusive as to the counting of electoral votes by Congress.
In event of a tie for the national popular vote winner, the presidential elector certifying official of each member this state shall certify the appointment of the elector slate nominated in association with the presidential slate receiving the largest number of popular votes within that official’s own this state.
If, for any reason, the number of presidential electors nominated in a member this state in association with the national popular vote winner is less than or greater than that state’s number of electoral votes, the presidential candidate on the presidential slate that has been designated as the national popular vote winner shall have the power to nominate the presidential electors for that state and that state’s presidential elector certifying official shall certify the appointment of such nominees.
The chief election official of each member this state shall immediately release to the public all vote counts or statements of votes as they are determined or obtained.
This article shall govern the appointment of presidential electors in each member this state hereinafter. in any year in which agreement is, on July 20, in effect in states cumulatively possessing a majority of the electoral votes.
Article IV—Other Provisions
This enactment recognizes the National Popular Vote agreement that shall take effect when states cumulatively possessing a majority of the electoral votes have enacted agreement in substantially the same form and the enactments by such states have taken effect in each state.
In that agreement any member state may withdraw from agreement, except that a withdrawal occurring six months or less before the end of a President’s term shall not become effective until a President or Vice President shall have been qualified to serve the next term.
The chief executive of each member this state shall promptly may notify the chief executive of all other states that this state has adopted the National Popular vote outright effective immediately. of when agreement has been enacted and has taken effect in that official’s state, when the state has withdrawn from agreement, and when agreement takes effect generally.
agreement shall terminate if the electoral college is abolished.
If any provision of agreement is held invalid, the remaining provisions shall not be affected.
Article V—Definitions
For purposes of this agreement, Enactment
“chief executive” shall mean the Governor of a State of the United States or the Mayor of the District of Columbia;
“elector slate” shall mean a slate of candidates who have been nominated in a state for the position of presidential elector in association with a presidential slate;
“chief election official” shall mean the state official or body that is authorized to certify the total number of popular votes for each presidential slate;
“presidential elector” shall mean an elector for President and Vice President of the United States;
“presidential elector certifying official” shall mean the state official or body that is authorized to certify the appointment of the state’s presidential electors;
“presidential slate” shall mean a slate of two persons, the first of whom has been nominated as a candidate for President of the United States and the second of whom has been nominated as a candidate for Vice President of the United States, or any legal successors to such persons, regardless of whether both names appear on the ballot presented to the voter in a particular state;
“state” shall mean a State of the United States and the District of Columbia; and
“statewide popular election” shall mean a general election in which votes are cast for presidential slates by individual voters and counted on a statewide basis.
NON MEMBERSHIP DIRECT IMMEDIATE NATIONAL POPULAR VOTE MODIFIED BILL TEXT ENDS
The best option however is to allow voters themselves to choose the National Popular Vote by a checkbox on the ballot itself as to where the electors will be required to vote for a given state. In other words if voters vote that the National Popular Vote would control, even if a candidate wins that state they would need to win the national Popular vote also, and vice versa, if they loose that state but win the the National Popular Vote, they will carry the electors for that state - if the voters also vote to use the national Popular Vote.
To date the most well known suit was in Pennsylvania before a n Obama appointed Republican Judge .Matthew Brann. On November 21, 2020 on a Saturday - he dismissed that lawsuit critical to President Donald Trump’s effort to overturn his Nov. 3 election loss to Democratic President-elect Joe Biden, calling his legal claim a “Frankenstein’s Monster.”
The Trump campaign had sought to prevent state officials from certifying the results of the election in the state; however, U.S. District Judge Matthew Brann in Williamsport, Pennsylvania, described the case as “strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations.”
Brann said that he “has no authority to take away the right to vote of even a single person, let alone millions of citizens.” The lawsuit before Brann was filed on Nov. 9 and had alleged inconsistent treatment by county election officials of mail-in ballots. Some counties notified voters that they could fix minor defects such as missing “secrecy envelopes” while others did not.
“This claim, like Frankenstein’s Monster, has been haphazardly stitched together,” wrote Brann. The standard on appeal is normally error or abuse of discretion of the Judge below. But in this case Brann also declared the case without merit, and that he had no authority to throw out millions of voters votes.
Further the case ruling unanimously on July 6, 2020 out of the US Supreme Court by Justice KAGAN ruled in CHIAFALO ET AL. v. WASHINGTON, locatable on the web as 19-465_i425.pdf specifically alludes to law says a legislature has no power to usurp the villl of the voters and nor does a governor or court.
Brann, nominated by former President Barack Obama, is a Republican and, according to his biography, a member of the Federalist Society, a group of conservative and libertarian lawyers, law students and scholars.
Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani said in a statement he was disappointed with the ruling and will appeal. “Today’s decision turns out to help us in our strategy to get expeditiously to the U.S. Supreme Court,” he said.
Rudy Giuliani has a path to appeal because they moved to amend the complaint a second time; however Judge Brann based his ruling on the critical fact that in any event Trump has no standing for what he seeks. Having a path - does not meant it will in any case succeed absent standing.
The campaign will ask the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Philadelphia to review the ruling on an accelerated timetable, according to Giuliani. A majority of that circuit’s judges were nominated by Republican presidents. Four were nominated by Trump.
The campaign wanted Brann to allow Pennsylvania’s Republican-controlled state legislature to appoint electors who would back for Trump at the Electoral College vote on Dec. 14.
Under Pennsylvania law, the candidate who wins the popular vote in the state gets all the state’s electoral votes, but the problem is the supreme court just ruled, that a legislature cannot appoint legislatures to vote against he will of the people, and in this case - in all cases on a National basis, 6 million votes is blocking any court action.
The complaints of the PA suit and order dismissing is below as well as Lawrence Lessig's blog printed as a PDF. (https://www.lawfareblog.com/state-legislatures-cant-ignore-popular-vote-... )
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